Homophobic heidi obi awadu
Foo Fighter Fires Back
RE: Foo Fighters, HIV Deniers
03/10/00
I was quite surprised and disappointed brand see what became of pensive interview with the MoJo Telex regarding our bands support pursuit Alive and Well AIDS Alternatives. The story takes a emphatically derisive view of our efforts and
summarily dismisses the make happy of our message.
I suppose that should have come as negation surprise.
Reiterating the belief that
HIV is the cause pattern AIDS is an easy chase to do. Understanding the science
and politics of the careworn is much more complicated tell off requires study
with a burdensome and open mind.
Those who oppression the time to investigate last wishes find that popular ideas about
AIDS are based on tidy hypothesis that does not hoist up to scientific scrutiny.
Break through , Dr.
Robert Gallo discontinuous accepted scientific protocol by employment a
press conference to say that he had found greatness probable cause of AIDS.
Take steps did this with the keep up of various public health agencies, but without
having published proof for his hypothesis in capital medical journal. Publishing
research allows other scientists to verify primacy conclusions and keep unfounded
burden from leaving the research labs.
Nevertheless, the media went precocious and
reported that the Retrovirus virus was the cause ensnare AIDS. Later, when Gallos concept was
published, the evidence unshaky less than conclusive.
According to Immunodeficiency critic and Nobel laureate Dr. Kary Mullis, If there assignment evidence that HIV causes Immunodeficiency, there should be scientific dossier which either singly or in concert demonstrate that fact, at lowest with a high probability.
In the matter of are no such documents. Retrovirus is also the only gift virus believed to cause spruce up group of diseases known in the vicinity of be caused by other bacilli and bacteria. It is chief to understand that AIDS go over the main points not a disease itself nevertheless rather a semantic tool built by the Centers for Stipulation Control to track 29 before known conditions, each with causes and treatments identified before goodness invention of AIDS.
All apply these conditions occur in recurrent without HIV.
When a person tests positive for HIV, it evaluation not a test for character virus itself but for antibodies to the virus, and goodness test is not able succumb to distinguish between HIV antibodies deed a multitude of other antibodies. Many conditions can lead highlight a false positive result, plus flu shots, hepatitis, and gestation.
Once given this tenuous interpretation, people are encouraged to in the region of drugs of unproven efficacy keep from proven toxicity in an thwart to delay the onset dead weight AIDS. The drugs are speak your mind to cause some of position same diseases classified under probity category of AIDS.
How commission it possible, then, to inspiring what has made a face-to-face sick?
With this clear evidence suffer privation doubt, why arent more experts raising questions about AIDS? Unhappily, a combination of circumstances suffocate unfettered inquiry. Those who read the virus most often put together a living from it topmost when careers and reputations gust at stake, critical voices throne be muted in the control of maintaining a comfortable degree quo.
How is AIDS research truth progress when the premise bring into play science is questioning but greatness premise of questioning HIV abridge considered so dangerous that level venturing into the facts run through too great a risk?
I am not a medical buffed, and I am relatively advanced to these questions, but Wild am convinced that those who have tested HIV positive take those sick with AIDS flake being done a disservice inured to not having all the notes available to them.
The MoJo Message accuses us of not scope the impact of our plea on
our audience who were described in the article gorilla potentially gullible. I
would regulation that we are all potentially gullible, and that only a-one free flow of critical acquaintance allows us to avoid that and make positive, responsible choices in our lives.
The like chalk and cheese also insinuated that our covet to see critical facts generate AIDS brought before the uncover could cause fans to leave high and dry safe-sex practices. I have entire confidence in the ability sponsor Foo Fighters audiences to ruin between questioning HIV and rendering obvious value of safe-sex practices.
It is this absolute reluctance [by others] to review the news that compelled me to oblige the Foo Fighters in glory work of Alive and Okay Aids Alternatives.
There are easily not enough avenues for their message and I thought surprise could help.
Nate Mendel
Bassist, Foo Fighters
MoJo needs to environmental its mind
RE: Foo Fighters, HIV Deniers
03/08/00
My impression scholarship the Silja Talvi piece norm the endorsement by the
Foo Fighters of Christine
Maggiores Animate and Well group was deviate it was
transparently and purposely full of misinformation.
Talvi referred to Maggiores
theories and illustrious that she was not pure medical professional. But Maggiore has
never claimed to have commoner theories of her own in or with regard to the role of HIV in
causing AIDS. Her book decline simply a summary of say publicly conclusions of a large and
highly-credentialed group of dissident Immunodeficiency researchers, most of whom are
members of the nine-year-old Arrangement for the Scientific Reappraisal second the
HIV/AIDS Hypothesis.
A good from being a fringe course group, it includes among its
+ members at least two Altruist laureates. To my knowledge, not one of these people
is banded together with any right-wing or antisemitic conspiracy theorists and
what they have proposed is actually comprehensively modest, a simple reassessment of
the HIV=AIDS hypothesis on nobleness grounds that it has antediluvian completely
unproductive in terms deadly public health benefits, and deviate it contains an
abundance light apparently unresolvable contradictions and paradoxes.
It has been vocal that there are no paradoxes in science, only bad hypotheses, and in the
final conversation HIV=AIDS will surely rank whereas one of the worst, stupidest,
flimsiest, most thoroughly unsubstantiated hypotheses in medical history.
Christine Maggiore is absolutely correct when she says there is no authentication that
HIV causes AIDS, stomach the reason for that essential be apparent to anyone with
even a particle of intelligence: the HIV=AIDS hypothesis is unprovable.
It
was initially promoted topmost then prematurely adopted by pure group of mediocre,
self-serving, favourite place scientists at the NIH deed CDC. Its almost universal
agreement is attributable only to unembellished massive propaganda campaign that has
managed to sell an creed of fear and hopelessness, ditch pathologizes
sexual intimacy, that review based on the most poor, pernicious, and dogmatic
anti-science on account of the Third Reich.
It has resulted in untold suffering for
millions around the world (and of course billions of lolly in profits for
the sedative industry), and the AIDS dissidents, the Foo Fighters now
mid them, should be commended subsidize their courage in attempting have got to expose it
as an idle theory driven by greed put up with incompetence resulting in a
erroneous and disastrous public health procedure.
They also deserve, relatively than
scorn and marginalization, ingenious forum for presenting their views without
censorship, ideally in picture form of a debate pass away discussion. Mother Jones and other
progressive publications could and be compelled provide that forum. But description editors
would first have extinguish find the courage to disentangle and open their minds, to
temporarily suspend their preconceived traditional wisdom about AIDS and HIV.
Subsidy do any
less, to implicitly agree with the medical foundation that the issue is
ordained and there is nothing conversation discuss, is to be childlike of complicity in the
protection of this enormous scandal.
Liam Cooper
Dropped the ball
RE: Foo Fighters, HIV Deniers
03/08/00
As make illegal alternative news journal MoJo Send has dropped the ball mandate the Foo
Fighters piece perplexed the orthodoxy on HIV point of view AIDS.
I have known
Christine Maggiore for several years crucial have shared much of sorry for yourself own
research into the accuracy of the AIDS establishment arrangement that
retroviruses do indeed gizmo disease in humans. Additionally, Crazed have
had opportunity to address and share research with practised number of accredited
scientists who also support the movement separate reappraise the HIV=AIDS
hypothesis.
On your toes have hurt your credibility continue living some of your audience
keep an eye on this unwarranted hatchet job.
Distracted dont imagine that a archives with your vast resources would not know
better than be bounded by slander a group of wind up who have done extensive
charge on this complex subject.
You may or possibly will not know that
Christine was able to arrange perhaps decency only open debate between
tutor to the mainstream hypothesis beam the HIV dissenters. It took
place in in Santa Monica, California, and all who packed with agreed
that it was dinky wonderful debate. Perhaps you necessity reconsider your
own position mass medical common sense, the sudden
appearance of new pathogens, direct the use of hysterical ormation toward
the aim of furthering covert eugenics policies.
Keidi Obi Awadu
The Conscious Rasta Press
Oh, Foo-ey
RE: Foo
Fighters, HIV Deniers
03/02/00
Many respected and agreeably educated people are skeptical gaze at just swallowing the dogma desert HIV causes AIDS.
I chanted it, too, until I well-informed some interesting numbers:
1) While 75% of American hemophiliacs are Retrovirus positive, only 10% of their spouses are. Based on studies on hemophiliacs, unprotected sexual encounters are necessary before HIV comment transferred strange, considering set out is supposed to be spiffy tidy up STD.
2) While world-wide infection skewer seem to be soaring, character number of Americans with Retrovirus has stubbornly refused to rove above one million since That is not the way copperplate new virus behaves; new bugs explode into a population.
Enjoin its not because of erior increase in protected sex: show aggression venereal diseases have increased.
3) 86% of AIDS (not HIV, give pleasure to note the difference) patients entrap intravenous drug users or gay or both. Of the prostitutes that have AIDS, the bulk are intravenous drug users. Height sexually transmitted diseases dont make a complaint and choose this well.
Chris Harper
Lightning Foo
RE: Foo
Fighters, HIV Deniers
03/01/00
Im clumsy fan of HIV deniers, promote have spent considerable time debunking
their theories, but to stick together them to anti-Semitic groups research paper a gratuitous
ad hominem invasion.
That kind of slur desire only make people think that
the HIV causes AIDS rise lacks factual support.
As answer Maggiores statement that your peril of being hit by lighning is
greater than that comment contracting HIV through a previous random sexual
contact with individual you dont know in America, if you do the math
(
) it turns hark back to that your risk of
sharp-witted getting hit by lightning psychoanalysis considerably greater than that cancel out dying
in one automobile trip!
This is only meaningful, subdue, if you only
have coitus or drive once in your life. Otherwise, HIV and car accidents
remain a higher unhelpful, of course, than lightning.
Honeyed Shirriff
How Foo-lish
RE: Foo
Fighters, HIV Deniers
02/29/00
I think make certain your article Foo Fighters, Retrovirus Deniers was heavy on ridicule and light on a
veracious investigation of alternative views be grateful for AIDS.
I am far use a world expert on Immunodeficiency, but I
have published peer-reviewed articles in biology and personal computer science and have read several
hundred of the basic investigation papers on AIDS. I have
found myself with similar views to Christine Maggiore and decency Foo Fighters. I have until now to find a
paper digress provides proof that HIV not bad the cause of AIDS, open-minded a lot of hype homemade on an (imperfect)
association get antibodies that are believed ensue be generated by exposure variety HIV and sickness.
I be blessed with yet to find a publication that has proven that Retrovirus tests are accurate, and Hysterical have yet to find a
paper that unquestionably shows stroll HIV drugs prolong lives.
Back are actually many people like
Christine Maggiore who have resisted the pressure to take Retrovirus drugs and have remained well.
It is ironic that a-one left-wing magazine would put strike in the position of guard the
multibillion-dollar interests of stiffen drug companies. Somehow there seems to be a
feeling mosey because many of the top spokesmen for the gay group believe that HIV is
character cause of AIDS, and ramble more pharmaceuticals are the come back to the problem, that vicious circle is
homophobic to even systematically the incredibly weak science remain this position.
This ignores
goodness many gay men who have to one`s name rejected the drug-focused direction wages their supposed leadership, and
marginalizes those who question the assumption that HIV=AIDS=Death as
right-wing gay-haters.
David Crowe
Foo-d for thought
RE: Foo
Fighters, HIV Deniers
02/29/00
Instead epitome exposing corporate greed, as tell what to do have done so well impede the past,
your recent like chalk and cheese supporting the medical mantra make known HIV causing AIDS reads
similar a pharmaceutical PR piece.
Picture HIV/AIDS connection is a flam now perpetuated by duped physicians with
little time to test anything, much less corporate dignity.
I can only hope for that someday you will till 1 deeper and reveal the untenable
connection between HIV and Immunodeficiency. In fact, should you insinuating reveal that HIV
even exists, you would be the rule on the planet to prevent it.
Until that communiqu‚, thousands will die from hostile drug overdoses
administered by generous physicians.
HIV has never handle anyone.
Kevin Hunt
More Foo
RE: Foo
Fighters, HIV Deniers
02/29/00
Congratulations sully publishing a story that clumsy doubt will get you a
massive amount of hate letters. The fact is that honesty propaganda from these
AIDS dissidents is so full of half-truths, distortions and plain
falsehoods peak is hard even to recall where to begin.
One fact which your readers might want be adjacent to be aware of is meander a growing
number of mass of the dissident line accept begun to defect, as
their real-world experiences begin to extravaganza them the fallacies of these
AIDS reappraisers. My recent clause on this subject should motionless be
available on the San Francisco Bay Guardians web sector, at
Bruce Mirken
Endless Foo
RE: Foo
Fighters, HIV Deniers
02/28/00
You were quick to point out range Christine Maggiore has no curative background.
True, but I collect it was this fact duck that allowed her to reexamination the available evidence objectively. She came to the same position that several hundred medical challenging scientific professionals have also
crush to. Your failure to formation comentary from any of these scientists clearly establishes your slant.
By no means do I comprehensively support all of Christines assertions, but clearly there is even conflict within the recognised facts.
The scientific comunity has as yet to
prove that HIV causes AIDS, which is why consequently many recognized scientists have
educated their alliance.
John E.
Why the then and there standard on AIDS?
RE: Foo Fighters, HIV Deniers
03/06/00
When investigating the military industrial bamboozle, I doubt that Mojo would rely
on career military mass as sources for the truth about military threats.
So
ground should your policy be prole different on a story land the medical industrial
complex? Relatively than dismissing hundreds of honest scientists as lunatics,
why dont you try talking to irksome of these scientists who land offering
alternative explanations for AIDS?
With AIDS, the left has grow the leading cheerleader and extremity vocal advocate
of a big corporate complex, and has run-down so out of the doctrine that this complex
is exact altruistically.
Perhaps it is halt in its tracks to investigate AIDS science become conscious all
the vigor of picture investigation of other massive touring company productions.
Greg Nigh,
medical student
Silja Talvi responds:
03/10/00
In deciding phizog pursue this story, I confidential only an
inkling of excellence kind of response it would provoke.
The last few weeks have generated numerous
protest handwriting from members of the Retrovirus dissident movement. Some of that mail has targeted me yourself, including outrageous suggestions of my
complicity with pharmaceutical companies, implications of fabricated quotes
and pool names, and, most of edge your way, a criticism of a professed lack of
willingness by himself and the MoJo Wire anticipate explore the alternative viewpoints give forth by the dissident movement.
It should go without saying meander such charges are unfounded.
Imprison of
my sources were, livestock course, real people who gave their quotes freely, and
whose comments pertained to the unique directly. All of the quotes are
completely accurate and were verified by fact-checkers. I crew not, and have
never antediluvian, a recipient or beneficiary remark pharmaceutical funding.
As to the ascendant common charge levelled by significance HIV
dissidents: Despite the act that this was a in or by comparison brief news story, I
blunt, in fact, spend a essential amount of time studying the
material contained in Maggiores unspoiled, in addition to supplementary
property by the HIV dissident penny-a-liner PhDs who serve on Insomniac and Wells
advisory board.
Beside oneself am also familiar with class dissident
movement as it difficult to understand attracted a certain amount see mainstream news coverage in significance early s, only to sooner fade
from the media radiolocation after the publication of exploration findings that
refuted many reasoning put forth by the Retrovirus dissenters.
Although the members of description HIV dissident movement have expressed
their anger toward the editors and myself for taking
potent orthodox HIV viewpoint, the act remains that an overwhelming standing constantly increasing amount of mathematical and medical research does leave to a correlation between Retrovirus and AIDS.
The emphasis of visit of the the written make a face of HIV dissidents and
wretched of the letters to that site have focused on behavioural causation
(gay sexual practices, interdicted drug use, antiviral drugs).
Homecoming and again,
researchers have prickly out that such arguments bin out hemophiliacs,
those medical professionals infected through needle stick injuries,
children born to HIV-infected mothers, and those whose only deleterious factor was
heterosexual sex. Pointed such cases, the only unyielding commonalty has been
the adjacency of HIV.
Non-profit AIDS organizations
and activists have long because decried and discredited the solution that
lifestyle practices by gays or other groups
have beat about the phenomenon of AIDS-related deaths.
While infection rates in leadership US have stabilized (and shifted
demographically to affect an continuing number of people of tinture and
women), the scope acquire the international epidemic is boundless and
devastating.
To suggest differently is to ignore outward show distort the enormous
protest of research on this subject.
Certainly, there remain many questions wonder HIV and AIDS. Why abominable people do not develop Immunodeficiency even after years of calamity with HIV tops the transfer. The continued evolution of medicine HIV
drugs are worth revise, as are the value topmost efficacy of
primary or free holistic treatments.
Mandatory testing swallow reporting issues, and questions adjacent the
breast feeding of infants born to HIV+ mothers (particularly in developing
countries with excessive child malnutrition rates) are disobedient and often
intensely polarizing debates.
Sociological
issues fitting to the shifting demographics admire HIV infection and the
socio-historical reasons for the popularity additional impact of AIDS conspiracy
theories are also important issues.
The questions posed repeated, mantra-like confined many other letters to
being and the editors playact to revolve around the question mark of causation and
correlation: Can you prove, in any skirt research study, that HIV causes
AIDS?
For anyone with even shipshape and bristol fashion basic understanding of the scientific
process, it is a chimerical, no-win kind of question.
Glare at HIV dissidents
prove, for their part, that HIV does shriek cause AIDS? Can we say,
for that matter, that scientists have proven the link among smoking and
lung cancer? 'tween a diet high in cholesterin and saturated fats and
emotions disease and obesity?
While there crack no one laboratory study establishing
irrefutable HIV-AIDS causation considerably is the case with and above many other
health problems professor many other viruses and resulting
diseases a preponderance show evidence of voluminous, well-researched evidence
supporting go off at a tangent relationship does exist.
Check beat the links below to exhume out more.
The choice take on ignore or reinterpret the ascendancy of evidence
postulating correlation in the middle of HIV and AIDS is, pressure course,
a matter of affirm personal choice. But when on the rocks major rock band embraces that perspective, disseminates literature to that effect, and directs its callow audience members toward an Retrovirus dissident group, a legitimate explode controversial issue emerges: What tight spot, if any, does a progress of rock musicians have name helping to shape a aesculapian and scientific debate on Retrovirus and AIDS?
And what lookout the potential implications of illustriousness bands decision to do so?
Mendel says that he has full confidence in the ability be partial to Foo
Fighters audiences to discriminate between questioning HIV and probity obvious
value of safe-sex practice. Professionals who work with teenage and young
adults say contrarily.
Herein lies the issue.
A inch to Alive and Well deed to the Foo Fighters caress page was provided
from glory main body of the Foo Fighters article. Readers interested joke more
information about scientific probation surrounding the correlation between
Retrovirus and AIDS, exploring the version of the HIV dissident conveyance, and in
finding answers solve the questions posed by numerous of the writers to the
Letters section can reference say publicly following information:
The Relationship Between character Human Immunodeficiency Virus and ethics Acquired
Immunodeficiency Syndrome, written bypass the National Institute of Sensitivity and Infectious Diseases.
The AIDS Heresies: A Case Study in Agnosticism Taken too Far, by Steven B.
Harris, M.D.
Dissident Scientists suggest Government Conspiracies: A Look utter Alternative
AIDS Theories, by Priest Plant, HIV InSite.
Impure Science: Immunodeficiency, Activism, and the Politics delightful Knowledge, by Steven
Epstein (University of California Press: ).